Watch Naruto Shippuden 45 “The Results of Betrayal” and find out what shocked Naruto when the truth is revealed… and did Sai really died and what actually happened… all of these in this interesting episode of Naruto Shippuden!
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82 responses so far ↓
1 Joe™ // Feb 1, 2008 at 9:59 am
wow not using veoh’s video alrdy…haha
but this one is better i admit it
2 Free2HateMe // Feb 1, 2008 at 10:08 am
… uhum now i figure out why naruto will not use the power of the fox … and ftw … i like the replacement for kakashi … almost as smart as kakashi he can controle better naruto

3 nine-fox // Feb 1, 2008 at 1:21 pm
its like cool, dude…..
4 Free2HateMe // Feb 1, 2008 at 3:36 pm
did u guys c the part where sasuke brakes neji in pieces? ajajajja :)) … gaara i am shore u saw that
:D…*creepy laugh*
5 Pein // Feb 1, 2008 at 5:17 pm
lol @ freetohateme
what are you talking about?
good episode by the way informative
Oh go back to the hinata neji fight kakashi says it all lol. oh anyone else reading the manga 387 spoiler is out.
6 Kitsune // Feb 2, 2008 at 6:26 am
can you guys like calm down
7 HAQJ // Feb 2, 2008 at 11:09 am
It was ,…. AWESOME xD
8 Naruto // Feb 2, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Hello to all the wonderful and colourful comments of Pein and Free2HateMe, I really enjoy reading some if not all of your recent comments…
…however sadly, I have to delete almost all of your recent posts as they have personal attacks on our fellow ninjas posting here.
I would still love to hear your comments however, please leave objective/fair discussions and comments.
Thank you guys and gals.
9 Pein // Feb 2, 2008 at 11:05 pm
@ naruto
Thanks for deleting all posts including mine, the discussion was ridiculous and went no where. keep the episodes coming. and freetohateme please remember you are 21, “one with the ground”?? hey did anyone else read manga 387 yet?
10 Ddlen // Feb 3, 2008 at 12:51 am
naruto is has best he has so much power in 4 tails noone can match his power
11 Free2HateMe // Feb 3, 2008 at 4:26 am
… aham it looks that pein has high ranked friends
… that is why i was asking on msn … not to make urselfs look bad
…. anyway i had some nice arguments in my last post here u shouldeve seen gaara 
12 Kozix // Feb 3, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Tsch.. Nothing what so ever happens within 20 minits! lol! Wicked eps but so little has been passed through!
Loving this ep tho, CANT WAIT FOR NEXT ONE!
13 Narutoman // Feb 3, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Hello,
Can somewone please tell me when exactly the next episode will come? And will the next episode split in to two episodes? Meaning Naruto Shippuden 46/47 will come together? Anyone that can answer my question?
Ps: Sorry for my bad Engelish, i’m not from America or any other country that speaks engelish.
14 big kev // Feb 4, 2008 at 1:56 pm
oh yeah can`t wait for the next ep. of naruto i hope we get to see sasuke
15 Free2HateMe // Feb 4, 2008 at 6:08 pm
nope neji will be the star in next one … *he is stronger as we know it
16 Pein // Feb 4, 2008 at 6:38 pm
there were no previews for 46?? whats up with that?
17 Madara Uchiha // Feb 4, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Neji is and will always be, a supporting character. Yeah, the Byakugan was what the Sharingan derived from, but Kishimoto obviously thinks very highly of it, because he continues to go in depth with that Doujutsu. By the way, Neji’ll never be on an Uchiha’s level.
18 GAARA // Feb 5, 2008 at 12:01 am
@Free2hateme
Hahahahahaahahaha that was a good 1.
@Madara
THank u SON. Now thats the knowledge that I’m talkin about, NEJI will NEVER be on an UCHIHA’S level.
19 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 3:26 pm
@Madara
Very well said or typed I mean. I’ll ignore gaara lol. Although your words were chosen well you still have missed the fact that from the very introduction of neji, the byakugan was established as the stronger of the two eyes, it’s not a question of when it was said but why it was said. I don’t think anyone here can argue with kishimoto about his own creation. yes sasuke and naruto are the main characters, they have their rivalry what would be the sense of throwing neji in the mix. he does take a back seat to their situation but skill and power wise ” An overwhelming talent, and a silent passion. Together these assets have created an unequalled shinobi” that was the description of neji by kishimoto.
20 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm
oh and by the way madara was beaten by the fourth hokage who had no special blood line limit, he was just a pure genious. I respect genious and hard word over borrowed power any day. I think sasuke will never be a great shinobi because he is consumed with hatred and sought power the wrong way, I think that is the purpose that sasuke serves now, to make clear that point.
21 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm
@ Pein.
You make alot of sense in regard to your the power of the Byakugan. But what I’m basically saying is. Neji is respected highly in his village and yes his eye is supposedly the superior of the Sharingan, but.. Hybrids are usually the ones with the potential to surpass the predecessor. Which is why I think Kishimoto keeps unveiling backstories to the history of the Sharingan. I think he is meaning for it to surpass the original, just like most hybrids do in any anime. And as far as Sasuke is concerned, he was originally tagged a genius just like Neji, but obivously chose a different road for his ascension to greater power. As far as Yondaime is concerned, like it was stated, he was the greatest shinobi who ever lived. So I don’t believe Madara could stand a chance. Which is why he summoned something which couldn’t be destroyed to destroy him and that village.
22 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 3:54 pm
@ Pein.
And if you respect Genius and hard work so much, then you should be rooting for Naruto instead of Neji, who is the destined child. The one who’s power is supposed to be strong enough to start the ninja revolution. So naturally he’ll be stronger than his father, because as stated by Kakashi, “it’s only natural for the current generation to surpass the previous ones. It’s the neverending cycle of life”.
23 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 6:39 pm
@madara
I like naruto his character is kick ass, in a battle he can take a major beating and still find a way to out smart his opponent. I respect characters like lee, shino, shikamaru, neji, naruto, kakashi and so on. Sasuke doesn’t match up with these guys in character, and skill wise yes he would give neji trouble in a match because he has all this borrowed strength but, he would not beat neji. in the words of kakashi ” you can train your body, but you can not train your organs”. sasuke was recognized as a genious yes but kakashi said ” frankly our sasuke doesn’t stand a chance against this guy” he also said he didn’t even know a guy like neji existed. he was always a genious and is now a joning becauswe he is a master, and as neji said he is not satisfied with just stopping there. this issue will never be resolved until the fight actually happens lol
24 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 6:58 pm
@ Pein.
We agree on one thing, this won’t be resolved until they actually fight, if they ever do in this case. I truly doubt that they will though. But the ascension of the both of them in the past two and a half years has been remarkable though. Yes, granted Neji has become a Jonin and has pretty much passed his team and the entirety of the “Rookie 9″ for that matter. But it was also specified that Sasuke’s training was greatly enhanced while under Orochimaru because of possible experiments and the possibility of learning many forbidden jutsu. With that being said, he’s alot stronger than he should be with just that 2 1/2 years of training. But anything for power right? Since you defend the Hyuuga clan so much. why don’t you change your name from Pein. I mean, it’s only naturally for me to back up the Uchiha right? There was a reason they were the military force in Konohagakure. They were looked at as the absolute best in that village. I doubt there are any deep, dark secrets with the Byakugan. Regardless of the Bloodline limit, the epitome of a shinobi is an elite Uchiha. Case closed. I finished my statement, with Hyuuga who? I don’t think you should respond until Neji gets some more screentime. Which might be never. But you’re a pretty bright guy Pein. So you should know the pecking order in Naruto. There are the Uchiha’s… and then there’s everybody else. Besides the main character, obviously. And if Naruto’s kick ass, then what does that make my student Itachi?
25 Minato Namikaze // Feb 5, 2008 at 7:01 pm
nobody wants to hear about the uchihas and the hyuga clan. The story isn’t focused around this. It’s all about the growth of one man naruto uzumakki.
26 God of the Voice // Feb 5, 2008 at 7:44 pm
neji is the Broly (DBZ) of naruto (according to the constant argument between who’s the best ninja)..he was the guy naruto beat with fluke move, only used to make it seem like naruto good heart overcomes any obstacle. Just like when Goku beat broly with same fluke move to prove the same concept. On top of that neji is a supporting character vs the main characters that sasuke and naruto are but that doesn’t mean anything. In every anime there will be a great supporting only used to show you that other great talent exist besides for the evident ones. Neji is that character. But remember one thing neji moves are instant death that doesn’t need a DBZ charge up to do unlike the 2 main characters, so just know the time it takes to charge up you could be dead if u really want to address facts of fighting. Itachi on the other hand is my favorite character on the show, not that it has anything to do with his sharingan its just he reminds of Sesshomaru (from Inuyasha) because he doesn’t show much reaction he just comes through and does heavy damage and is quickly recognized as the “real deal” as he should.
27 God of the Voice // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Since the argument is about Bya vs. Shar its only fair to say that sharingan is the popular eye not to say it’s stronger. But from what Gai said during the neji vs hinata fight its boring to watch but it’s extremely powerful. The sharingan was easier to plot a story about only because the moves are “way too fake” so it creates an unlimited amount theatrics to purposely amuse viewers. Basically you can’t have much story talking about an eye that sees chakra points that also can’t be duplicated. Neji’s byakugan is suppose to be seen as the more mature serious eye..as oppose to the sharingan which is very much of an animated attribute thats why only very few of the uchihas exist; the eye wouldn’t be much to talk about if everyone had it. Getting back on track, if Itachi never came into the picture the sharingan wouldn’t of had this much buzz going around, he bascially made everyone like the sharingan( if I may add, more than the byakugan) . Without itachi, the sharingan wouldn’t be so popular based on how sasuke and kakashi was using it during the show. So let’s face it..the only reason why people are saying sasuke could beat neji is not even based on sasuke’s ability, its based on what people seen Itachi do (hoping that sasuke would have become something like his brother). But dont get it twisted Itachi just a nice character that happened to have the sharingan just add twist to the show, but he has moves or abilities other people cant do, like his speed at creating clones or doing jutsus. Plus his amaterasu (black fire) is not even a sharingan move it’s a pure demon move, he has superior abilities outside the use of the sharingan so dont forget that.
28 God of the Voice // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Dont get me wrong i feel everyones opinion on which respective character they like, cuz lets face it you need other characters to compare them too to help you like who you like. But in all reality lets face it if neji went on a killing spree hitting you only once and u died which he has the ability to do, everyone would on here be a different song. More importantly if Bruce Banner was killed instantly instead of being beaten up there would be no incredible hulk..so that goes to show.. characters that have to charge or need a loading time to do hot moves, would loose to anymore who has the ability kill you instantly without a wasted second.
29 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:33 pm
@ God Of The Voice
Nice DBZ/ Naruto comparison.
30 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Lol damn i never thought of neji going on a crazy killing spree… but great point if it weren’t for naruto that would have been neji’s character.
31 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Itachi’s skill set is on a totally different level compared to the other aforementioned characters. Him pretty much versus anybody you can think of is usually a victory in the column of Itachi. Itachi’s power and raw speed are pretty much unparalleled. But as the story continues to unfold, just like with Naruto, Sasuke has the same infinite potential that his rival possesess. Which made the Battle at the Valley of the End all the more special, yet ironic. They are pretty much the leaders of the new school to speak. Now, Neji is a strong adversary and probably could dehabilitate most people in a single blow, which is pretty awesome but. When you put a genius up against someone with infinite potential, even when the odds are stacked against the dropout or the failure to speak, things don’t always go as planned. All of the characters mentioned are decent in their own right and everybody has the right to voice their opinion. But if Sasuke has the possibility or potential to surpass his older brother who is viewed as almost some type of God, it’s only right to say that he’ll be able to defeat almost everyone. No matter who it is.
32 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:53 pm
@ madara
You’re right if sasuke can find some more power to steal yes he will beat just about anybody lol just kidding but you get my point, he hasn’t shown much potential he’s down the same road as orochimaru with the exception of orochimaru was already highly skilled before he went on a power searching spree. Sasuke does not compare to itachi in anyway shape or form besides the fact that they are related. so sasuke is going to become an actual monster if itachi doesn’t kill him first. As of right now I will not give in to the idea that sasuke would or ever could beat a shinobi as skilled as neji. but if your argument is that itachi would beat neji then there you have a solid argument.
33 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:54 pm
oh and by the way Pein is the one that is viewed as some type of God lol just needed to make that clear.
34 God of the Voice // Feb 5, 2008 at 8:57 pm
M. Uchiha u must of not read my lucid comment the way i wanted it to be understood. Loading time moves are useless if someone can kill u instantly without a wasted second. Let me use less euphemism this time…if a sniper has u on target, do u have time to set up ya rocket launcher (or any other assembled gun), even though the rocket launcher is clearly the stronger weapon.
35 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:17 pm
@ Voice and Pein.
I clearly understand where the both of you are coming from. I understood you the first time around Voice. As far as Pein is concerned, I think it’s pretty muvh a foregone conclusion and a very valid point that Neji couldn’t beat Itachi. Regardless of if he can kill someone in a second or not. And besides, if the current arc actually plays out and Itachi gets Sasuke’s eyes, then I don’t see anymore point in calling Pein a God, if Itachi’s powers would surpass Madara’s himself. My point is this, because obviously some people must either be blind or just totally oblivious to Sasuke’s potential and Itachi’s natural ability and power. Neji is good. Very good in fact. But as far as the future is concerned and as of right now, Sasuke is slightly better. But I do hope Itachi does become stronger than Madara. And a sniper can kill whoever he wants and snipe whoever he pleases. but there is always, always… somebody better. I.E. Sasuke (Neji).
36 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Okay I don’t put sasuke and Itachi in the same category. And abut your Itachi Pein comment that’s another argument in and of itself, I mean Pein beat jiraya (may have killed him still not sure), jiraya was the fourth’s sensei, the fourth beat madara, Itachi said he would surpass madara if he got the eye but that has yet to be known. So as i said different argument. but back to sasuke, his potential is doomed as I will place him in a category below orochimaru just because their paths are similiar. Itachi is super fast but neji is no slow poke, sasuke is having trouble with speed and being out manuvered and out smarted which has plagued him his whole life. neji is a genious how do you out manuver out smart a deadly genious. yes he is an assasin and a damn good one, sasuke is a monster but nothing to be of concern if you’re good at tactical warfare. neji is just that, i m not even sure if he has a blind spot anymore, i am sure he doesn’t but even so how will sasuke hit that or even figure it out.
37 Madara Uchiha // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:42 pm
How can Sasuke has any problem with speed if he was taught Taijutsu and built up his speed to a level to use the Chidori with no side effects by Kakashi. Even after the time skip he had blinding speed. So that whole notion would have to just be shot down. There’s not really be anyone to really out maneuver Sasuke even though he hasn’t had alot of battles. You’re right about Sasuke being a monster. Even though the Hyuuga clan uses Taijutsu as well, Sasuke’s Taijutsu can be compared to Rock Lee’s even though he’s not as fast. It sure is comparable though. Neji may not have a blind spot, but one thing is for sure, every single ninja has a weakness. Sasuke was born a genius, into a genius clan, into a genius family. He’s the predecssor to possibly the next heir to the Uchiha clan, Itachi. Give respect where it’s due.
38 GAARA // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:45 pm
@everyone
I’m back lolz I kno pein isn’t happy about that
1st of all GoD of Voice is always talkin about people charging up??? Yo the Naruto/DBZ comparison was good but that doesn’t mean that DBZ is just like Naruto lolz there is no freaking charging up in Naruto LOLZ.
Have u ever played Naruto shippuden games or payed attention 2 the show??? Everybody starts out with as much chakra they have its not like DBZ where they scream for 5mins 2 increase their powerlevel LoLzz. The only character who somtype of abilitie ( I guess) is Naruto because it takes him time to release the Ninetailed foxes chakra, well u could say it takes time for the Fox trying to break out of Naruto.
I also read everything again for u pein!!!!!!!
Another thing that I noticed was that TOBI said:” Sasuke has almost surpassed Itachis Sharingan, it won’t take much longer for him.”
(I said this 50million times, the Sharingan can read the opponents move so there is no 1hit kill for neji on a Uchiha just like that. If for some reason Neji would ever beat an Uchiha, it would not be that quick for sure, com’on have some common sense Neji can’t just run up on somebody and hit him real quick and then their dead and especially not on an Uchiha plssss)
39 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:53 pm
i like Itachi not sasuke, he may have a taijutsu that is comparable to rock lee’s but rock lee’s taijutsu pales in comparison to neji’s gentle fist which is why rock lee with all his speed and stength and passion can not lay a finger on neji. I am reading the last manga and i see that Itachi’s speed is giving sasuke problems that is why i said what i said. The uchiha clan is a great clan but you can not over look the fact that they are a defeated clan. they are all dead first off with the exception of three. and the strongest of the three who is immortal has been defeated himself (madara) one time by some shinobi that was just a hard working genious, nothing special, no nine tailed fox no snakes no sharigan no byakugan. the uchiha clan may be a great one but not even close to unbeatable. sasuke is the weakest of the three and a very very weak when compared to the other two uchihas. Neji’s clan is alive and well and as sure as i am typing this would not be defeated by two of their own memebers or two of anyone else for that matter. you make some good points but it just doesn’t hold much wieght.
40 Pein // Feb 5, 2008 at 9:58 pm
@ Gaara
lol once more nonsense I wont even respond…
41 GAARA // Feb 5, 2008 at 10:07 pm
ur nonsense…
Uchiha defeated clan wtf????? I never heard that there were clan battles like in Halo or counterstrike LOLzzz.
They weren’t defeated they got assasinated by Itachi. What does that have 2 do with being defeated???? again nosense as ever.
Madara I wouldn’t try arguing with pein… trust me I kno what Im talkin about, all he does is support his fav. character and he will soon star to make up stuff if he hasn’t already lolz.
We should just watch and read the show and see what’ll happen 2 the chars.
42 GAARA // Feb 5, 2008 at 10:11 pm
@Madara
Don’t even try 2 state FACTS, they will only be Ignored for example u noticed how i wrote that Madara said that it won’t take sasuke long 2 surpass Itachi… he just looked over that and ignored it because he knows that there is no comeback for FACTS stated in the Manga.
43 big kev // Feb 5, 2008 at 11:40 pm
you guys are still going at huh? i hope i don`t get deleted again but you all have still great opinions and the only way to settle this is to have them fight
44 GAARA // Feb 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm
@big kev
Tru dat
45 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 3:09 am
@ Gaara
I’d rather not respond to you because you don’t make any sense. ever heard the phrase “live by the sword die by the sword”, as itachi said the uchihas were a bunch of savages. they were known for conquering then they were conquered once to create the leaf and next they were massacred not assassinated an assassination would be like one important person got killed. you see you are nonsense’s equal.
46 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 3:11 am
lol please stop responding to me because i hope madara would not start agreeing with you, cause for the world you could never make a valid point.
47 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 3:18 am
@pein
Ok then let’s call it a assassination massacre.
I mean be realistic u don’t honestly think that Itachi could beat the whole Uchiha clan by himself. It’s not like he announced through speakers: Hey I will start a massacre 2morrow, prepare yourselves. I think Itachi just went from house to house and started killing them before they could even tell what was going on.
I mean com’on all those clans r pretty tight with each other so if somebody would go up to another one and start makin a jutsu the person wouldn’t think that he is planning 2 kill him.
48 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 3:30 am
@pein
And don’t call me nonsense dude, u freakin Startrek engage teleporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So u think everything I say is nonsense huh?? well then look up the scene where Pein says that sasuke almost surpassed Itachi’s sharingan if u want I’ll look it up and send u the link. But I’ll bet u u can’t proof that teleportion stuff!!!!!!!! If so then pls show me. See I’m not like u who gets all upset and doesn’t respect arguements that you have. U just start calling me nonsense and stuff OMG, I can prob. proof about 90% stuff that I’m saying u can proof about 10% because they haven’t said many things about Neji in Shippuden, actually I think they haven’t even mentioned what he is capable of. The only thing we all have seen is that he couldn’t beat Kisame with help of 3 ppl, well actually he couldn’t hit him once so enough of that onehitkillDBZBrucestuff!!!!!
And if u have a problem with my arguements then pls tell me every singe thing I’ve said that u think is nonesense and I will give u tons of links 2 proof and those links won’t be stuff that u can google because there is no proof of most of that stuff the real stuff is in the manga and wikipedia. Now if u see people writing somewhere else about Neji than that’ll most likely madeupstuff because there is not more info released than the chapter 1-387 everything else is in the creators mind!!
49 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:00 am
lmfao I don’t know who taught you umm…. anything but yeah you are not a very sharp person… when have you ever heard of a massacre being announced? lol lol alright you don’t even know the meaning of assassination or to be assassinated?? it involves only one person getting killed off guard…. a massacre can occur at any time announced or unannounced but I am pretty sure no one announces when they are going to kill anyone especially a whole town which by definition could never be an assassination and there is no such thing as an assassination massacre because one word cancels out the other. You are very not smart. and why go through all the crap in your arguments when you aren’t very sharp. I can understand the things that madara says but not you, hhhmmm I wonder why? like i said before me and you read two different mangas and watch two different naruto’s so please just give up. oh and apparently we read two different dictionaries lol. you are weak go to sleep. just to know that your comments exist hurts my feelings. oh and when did i say itachi killed the uchihas by himself? you give me a headache.
50 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:12 am
and if everyone got killed in their sleep why were sasuke’s parents dead on the floor in the living room as if there were a struggle? or maybe they were sleeping on the floor in the living room slumped on top of one another, right? kunni knives and ninja stars everywhere? seemed like a pretty loud gruesome massacre to me… how late could it have been if sasuke was coming home at that time? don’t answer because this came from the version i read obviously not yours though.
51 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:33 am
lol watch naruto over the whole series… and by the way neji was the first person to hit kisame, in my manga version I guess. vacuum palm you know a move that doesn’t exist. i actually like gaara the character and honestly you have given him a bad name. goodness you are so dumb that the only person to defend you was another fool freetohateme.
52 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:55 am
WoW so ur saying that Itachi didn’t kill his clan??? The only reason why I brought up assassination is because u were talkin some bull about their clan being defeated???? I don’t think it is defeated when one of ur clan members run up 2 u and just kills u with no warning now that might not also be assassination but I think it it is closer 2 that than being defeated LOL. How can u be defeated be4 u even know that there os a Battle or war or whatever????? Seems like ur Dictionary isn’t the best either lol lol
WOW so u think Sasuke’s parents actually were defending themselves… how ignorant if u haven’t noticed they are also Itachis parents and if ur own son runs up 2 u, well I wouldn’t be on guard not even if it was someone of my clan.
Now even if Itachi told them he will kill them, I don’t think I would attack my son just because he told me he is about 2 kill me, I mean com’on!!
And by the way I thought it was weird 2 that when Sasuke came home everything was so dark??
Don’t call me weak u nerd I would beat the s*** out of u in real life. Skinnie emo kid!!!!!
53 JP // Feb 6, 2008 at 11:04 am
weeeeeeeeeeeee… my first time joining a naruto forum… welcome fellow shinobis!!! ^^
54 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 2:02 pm
@ Gaara and Pein.
Seems as if you guys really have some outstanding rivalry or in fact some type of hatred for each other. I’m only here to state the facts and my opinions just like everyone else on the forum. Everyone is entitled to their own character. Every character has a story. And we all think that our favorite charcters would beat the other’s up. Realistically though, the Uchihas are legendary as are the Hyuuga’s. But regardless of all of this, there is the main character issue, because’s no one is going to be able to surpass him for obvious reasons.
55 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 2:03 pm
@ Pein.
I actually did notice the differences between the anime and the manga between Kisame and Team Guy’s fight, so what you brought up was actually true. I guess when it wsa converted to animation, they changed it up some to fill out the alotted time for the episode.
56 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 2:05 pm
@ Gaara.
I do understand where you are coming from. Itachi did strike his clan like a thief in the night, sluaghtering them. But it was previously stated, that no matter how strong Itachi was at that point, that there was no way possible of him killing that whole clan, which is why he had help….. from yours truly.
57 Free2HateMe // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:09 pm
@maadara we were as patient as u are there is no point in explaining this to mrs. pein … he is a “pein” in the ass
58 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:23 pm
@ Free.
I can’t really be too mad at Pein. After all, he does work under me…
59 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:32 pm
@ Madara
You seem like a very intelligent person, and I respect your opinon overall, because you present it and make a proper defense, and take the time to understand the other person’s opinion. thats why our comments towards eachother are more like a debate. Gaara and freetohateme are idiots. I said when did i say itachi killed his clan by himself not that he did not take part in killing his clan you are stupid and it’s hard to see your comments. you are just not in the proper position to comment on anything because of your lack of logic and the meaning of assassination and massacre lol. I can’t respond to your comments in defense of the uchihas because they are based on a lack of thought (youre stupid). You are correct if me and you were having this discussion face to face I would have punched you first not for neji just because you are stupid. and all of this emo shit??? what is that about?? you probably shouldnt threaten anyone if you don’t have anything to back that up. from your emo kid comment i already know the kind of person that you are which actually assures me that i would whip your ass. so please no mas. you won I just can’t reach that level of stupidity. your your dumbass jutsu is immense but you lack a brain and in all honesty you wear a pussy. so no more threats okay.
60 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 4:34 pm
and pein has no fear of madara… after all he has never lost a fight.
61 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 5:42 pm
It’s not about fearing me. It’s about realistically, you know who’s running the show. Everyone knows who Pein reports too. Whether’s he lost a fight or not. As of right now, the person who’s the strongest in the Naruto universe is… once again, yours truly. If Pein is a God, and he reports to Madara… then what is Madara?
62 God of the Voice // Feb 6, 2008 at 6:19 pm
U can’t be serious..scratch all the naruto crap..someone just took it to actually threatening someone else..this forum has gotten out of hand…Gaara from the looks of the statement u started the first actual threat..now im not here to take sides becuz of naruto character interest becuz it has gone way beyond that..but in all reality dont threaten anyone especially if u haven’t seen them..its best not to underestimate cuz not only will u get hurt, u might get killed. u dont know anything about anyone not even what race they are, there current resident location nothing etc, so dont make stupid immature actions like that.
63 God of the Voice // Feb 6, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I honestly believe “naruto” should shut this forum down and just leave it as a strictly episode watching site..cuz apparently someone is too immature to know that their threats shouldn’t be said concerning how comments were already deleted becuz of the same reason. Honestly, despite what anyone said about naruto: a cartoon show..it takes real pussy to be a internet gangsta.
64 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 6:27 pm
look at it this way madara is the founder of the akatsuki doesn’t make him the strongest. I think pein is stronger and madara convinced pein that the akatsuki are working to do something else. I think this is where the real action is going to start pein and madara have conflicting interest itachi and madara have conflicting interests. I would love to see those guys just fight it out. but pein beat jiraya and is also a student of jiraya, we all know madara had an L handed to him by another student of jiraya. it doesn’t matter who you report to that determines skill level in this sort of situation…
65 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 6:30 pm
@ God Of The Word
I completely agree
66 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 7:00 pm
@ Pein & also Everyone who actually wants to fight on the forum (Lol.)
If Pein is so strong, why was he ‘ordered’ to capture the Jinchuriki by Madara? I don’t doubt his strength. Yes, Pein may be strong, but I don’t think he’s as powerful as Madara. And it’s kinda cheesy to know that if his secret is revealed in a battle that he’d lose. But the conflict of interest issue actually intrigues me. I do wish to see them battle, so we can see once and for all who is superior, even though at present it seems to be Madara based on his current revelation of his story and background. And as far as this fighting on the forum goes… you guys are never gonna meet each other. You probably live on opposite spectrums of the world. Are you really ready to kill one another over this anime? Lol! It does serve one purpose though, as far as the fighting on the forum goes. A comedic purpose. It’s about as funny as Tobi and Deidara were when they were partnered up.
67 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 7:09 pm
@everyone
R u serious GOD????? I started ummm read again I was writing down comments and out of nowhere Pein starts calling me a dumbass he calls me stpid he says I lack sense of knowledge, he says I’m weak etc.
Pein was obviously the 1 who started ask Free2hateme, u see… u probably don’t know that this discussion started 1 episode earlier.
@pein
Dude trust me U don’t hav any idea of what kind of person I am lolz u prob. think that I’m some spanish kid with a big mouth LOLZZZ even though ur the one with the big mouth here calling people names and stuff!!!!!!!!! Ur comebacks r weak they never refer to my aruements its always something else for ex. u start talkin about my dictionary and stuff LoLz.
When I started writing down comments I actually had fun at first, it was fun to hear what other people think and stuff but then u came out of nowhere calling me and free2hateme names lol.
68 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 7:37 pm
@pein&God
Alright how about we just calm down and start from the beginning.
Congratulations u found 1 of my 10% statements that I wasn’t 100% sure of. So maybe Neji hit Kisame. Sorry I should’ve wrote it this way; Neji wasn’t able to really hurt or Injure Kisame. Oh I’m sorry before u start correcting me again Neji wasn’t able to majorly hurt or injure a copy of Kisame whose power was only 30% of the real 1. MY BAD.
Soooo hmmm here are some facts Neji couldn’t really hurt an Akatski with help of 3 other good ninjas, Sasuke on the other hand could kill an Akatsuki by himself without using his full strenght. Now before u start coming back saying
that he used his full strength… I just read the chapters where they fought and at the end of the fight( before Deidara blew himself up) Deidara asked Sasuke what he would’ve done if his risky plan wouldn’t have worked.(I don’t want 2 write down the whole fight u should kno about how Sasuke fought him) Sasuke’s answer 2 that was: I would’ve had to use my “OTHER” technuiqe. That’s the reason why I think he wasn’t using everything he was capable of. U see, I don’t just make things up.
I think to really stand a chance against an Akatsuki by urself is to be a KAGE rank. (Well most of the akatsukis because Shikamaru beat one by himself).
I also think that Sasuke has proven him self to be on a Akatsuki rank. Sorry before someone corrects me again, he has proven himself worthy a Akatsuki. I mean… he did kill one of them and he did defeat Orochimaru.
Now I kno ur prob goin 2 say that he wouldn’t have beat Orchimaru if he had his full strenght but I think he still would’ve beat him. (Before u say anything that’s just my opinion I don’t kno what would’ve happened.
Yes it’s tru that he said that Orochimaru was weakened already but if we look back at sasukes personality he was always the type of person who bragged around. Everybody always ran up 2 him just because he was an Uchiha but he didn’t really want that. He wasn’t the type of person 2 just take advantage of that instead he was bothered being popular. That’s why I think he told his team that he only beat him because he was weak. He just didn’t want 2 brag about having that kind of strenght and he maybe even wanted 2 test his teammates if they would turn against him hearing that.( Again just my opinion)
69 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 7:45 pm
@Madara
LoLz I actually have to be on peins side on this one. I think Pein is stronger.
Reason why is that Itachi said something about Madara not being able to do what he used 2 and that the Ren’ningan is supposly the strongest eye out of all them.
But then again yeah tobi is their freakin boss so Idk. I heard rumors that Tobi isn’t Madara!!!!! People r saying that it is the 4th hokage lolz. At 1st I was like no freakin way, I mean u do sea that tobi has the sharingan but then my friend told me that there could be a possibilit. He said think about it: “The 4th hokage is narutos dad, Naruto is goofy, even though Tobi was acting but he still was behaving all goofy( I’d be kinda weird if a guy like Madara was that goofy).
I thought that was pretty interesting I mean this is a anime… anything could happen
70 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 7:47 pm
lots of spelling mistakes sorry guys I’m tired.
71 Madara Uchiha // Feb 6, 2008 at 8:24 pm
@ Gaara.
Sasuke beat Orochimaru when Orochimaru was terrible weakened. Sasuke beat Deidara using full power. Sasuke actually stated that if his plan failed he’d have to use his “other option”, not other technique. Even though he does have one technique which hasn’t been shown (the one he was about to use on Naruto, Sakura, Tenzou and Sai before Orochimaru stopped him.) Sasuke is no where near the Kage-level rank yet. I don’t think it’s long before he gets there, but he’s definitely not there yet. Yes, the Rinne’gan is the strongest out of all three eyes, but it doesn’t automatically catapult him past Madara. The Fourth is dead. Tobi acting goofy and what not was to cover up the fact that he was actually, ruthless and cold-hearted (Madara). He was trying not to blow his cover for whatever unknown reasons. Tobi isn’t Madara? How is that so when everyone inside the Akatsuki with the exception of Hoshigaki Kisame calls him Madara.
72 Pein // Feb 6, 2008 at 8:34 pm
well first off @ gaara an attack at your intelligence is not the same as a threat to beat you up on the interenet… that shit is completely retarded. and what was that loud spanish kid comment about? fuck are you racist or some shit? you say too many stupid things regardless of the anime or whatever, some times it’s just best to not say anything at all. I don’t look for anyone to come to my defense in this forum or in life i handle my own business especially in a debate. there are two different kind of debates though an intelligent one and one that goes absolutely no where. me and you were having that kind because you dont actually respond to the things i say…. whatever you’ll just miss this whole thing anyway. you’re a sasuke fan boy period and you say just about anything, sasuke akatsuki level? hokage level? legendary sanin level? goodness he is the best ever I get it now.
73 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Hahahahahah Sasuke isn’t my fav. character I just acknowledge his power I have many characters that I like more than Sasuke. Ur the one who is just supporting ur fav. character LOL.
Me and racist hahaahah if u would know. The only reason why I wrote that spanish stuff is because u told me that u kno excactly what kinda person I am and right after that u wrote so pls no mas.
ABout the kage thing.
Alright I made a mistake again. Ofcourse Sasuke is not on a Kage lvl. Well what I was trying to say was that a Jonin can’t beat most of the akatsukis by him self which Sasuke did. I wasn’t thinkin… I hurried up writing this stuff thinking that there are only 4 rank Genin, CHuunin, Jonin, Kage, but I guess u’d have to include ANBU 2 even though I think there in a different ranking system. Well the point I was trying to make is that ur lvl must be higher than a Jonins 2 beat most of the akatsukis. Even ppl like Kakashi or Gai couldn’t beat an akatsuki
74 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 10:51 pm
See there u go offending me again… wtf did I do 2 u?????
@pein
Ur always calling me dumb and stuff well then tell me what is so dumb about my arguements???
What the heck did I write that was soooooooooo wrong????? write down 1 thing. I even wrote down 4 u what were my opinions and what were statements.
I’m startin 2 think u don’t have anything 2 write back thats why start calling me names… is that what it is??? If so then ur the weak one here
75 GAARA // Feb 6, 2008 at 11:04 pm
@Madara
Hmmmm what ur sayin makes sense but then on the other hand it doesn’t. ( oh yeah by the way thx for reminding me about the Jutsu he still has that he was going 2 use on naruto and them… totaly forgot about that)
If Sasuke wasn’t using everything he had wouldn’t that make him not using all his strength???? Well we shouldn’t say strength… maybe ummmmmm abilities.
He doesn’t only have that one technique, he also started using (against Itachi) those crazy symbols on his wrist(don’t know what u would call them???? maybe Jutsu symbols lolz IDK) which I think are awesome lolz.
Oh yeah and about that Tobi thing u guys weren’t supposed 2 take that seriously LOLZ. I 2 think that that’s total BS lolz. It’d make no sense at all… why would the 4TH turn bad???? I just thought it’d be interesting to bring up that rumor which ppl are spreading.
76 GAARA // Feb 7, 2008 at 3:27 am
@Madara&pein&everyoneelse
I’m not sure who the strongest villain is right now there is 2 much info missing. 1st I thought Pein was the strongest, then I heard about tobi(madara) and I was like hmmm he prob. is the strongest, but then Itachi said something about Madara not being as strong as he used 2 be.
And also( u guys will prb. laugh) that one black&white dude ( with those green things on his shoulders lol) is freakin scary. He has 2 personalities. That guy is sick man I wouldn’t write him of maybe he is the strongest LOLZZ.
Just my opinion. That dude been having fun spying on people and stuff lolz, I think he is the most mysterious character right now. What if his bad half is like the srongest being ever and the good one is like trying 2 that power away and then allofasudden the bad one just freaks out and has a power noone would’ve imagined. LoLoLoL IDK just something that I think could happen hehehe. There is the possibiliy hehehe.
So yeah basically I;m trying 2 say that I think either Madara, Pein or that scary guy is the strongest. (LoL and allofasudden that guy gets killed really easily I’d crack up)
If Itachi happens 2 get sasukes eyes then he might be the strongest. GOD i can’t wait 2 see how naruto is going 2 end… they should really bring out like 10chaps a week.
77 Free2HateMe // Feb 7, 2008 at 8:48 am
@pein i am tired … i read 25% of what u wrote in first messege and then some lines from gaara
… and i’ll repeat for the 100 000 th time … we fokin hate sasuke
… i wish they will make an episode with his death
… omg and stop calling us idiots …u can’t comprehend a fokin thing from this anime
… u know how is called the thing u put on the horses eyes so they can c just str8 when u ride them on a road …i belive ur wearing something like that … hmmm … stop beeing so selfish … just judge the fokin facts… we show u that the regular tomato is red … we smush it of ur eye … but u make us idiots and say “no that is black u #$%!%@”! who is the one who can’t have a proper chat here? 
78 Free2HateMe // Feb 7, 2008 at 8:56 am
hmmm and about the strongest around … why not orochimaru
… he left akatsuki cuz he did not need them … and all the akatsuki is searching him and could not find his hideout or catch him
… sasori had a spy near orochimaru but did not dare to act alone(and he gave the hint to sakura when she saw that theyr team is strong enough to defeat him hoping that they will stop orochimaru from whatever he is plotting + the last episodes … hmmm i wonder, what he is cooking?) … hmmm i dunno to me still it seems that orochimaru is a super villain :)… he killed the hokage :S … hack knows now what he will do
… sry if i am wrong and u know more then me about naruto (did not read the manga cuz it would spoil the anime … )
79 Free2HateMe // Feb 7, 2008 at 10:47 am
… @PEIN another subject
… i belive on this one … Is Sasuke gay?… i certainly think so :)) he is blinded by revenge
..and that is why he is so!
80 GAARA // Feb 7, 2008 at 8:03 pm
@free2hateme
Hey whats up ur back… nice…
Did u read pein comments??? Omg that dude is goin crazy maaaan he starts offending us and everything lolz. He thinks he’s a fokin smartass. LOLz it was funny how he told me that he knows excactly what kind of person I am hahaahah actually it’s the other way around, I can tell excactly what kind of person he is just by what kind of info he is writing down. He thinks just because stuff like Byakugan is better than Sharingan was mentioned once in the series that that’s true. He isn’t the kind of person who thinks logicaly.
@pein
I do respect what ur saying but ur just relying on info from the past. Kakashi did say; “it was said that the byakugan is even better than the sharingan”. That doesn’t mean that it still is. Things change from generation 2 generation dude. There will always be someone better out there. Jutsus and techniques will always surpass others. And I think that at the curren arc. the Sharingan has more power 2 it. Yeah… maybe in the history of naruto ancient years ago the Byakugan was better but not in the current arc.
81 big kev // Feb 8, 2008 at 2:48 am
@Gaara
when you get info thats where it comes from. the past. we`re just stating the facts that kakashi said that and he`s been using the sharingan long before sasuke ever got his. kakashi somehow got his mangekyo sharingan without killing his best friend. yes sasuke is strong now than he was when he was in the leaf but i refuse to believe that neji has done nothing he trains with the highest hyuuga clan members. it all really because this anime focuses on naruto and sasuke so to the world everyone going to think that sasuke is super strong. now if for a couple of ep. that focus on neji you would realize that he is strong to. i hope i don`t get deleted again. i`ve been getting deleted like crazy and i`m not even threatening anyone.
82 Neji // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:23 pm
WOW
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